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Real People Real Talk
Creating Memories and Overcoming Challenges
What if the secret to a lasting marriage lies in the simple act of consistently dating your spouse? Join us as we celebrate our sixth anniversary by sharing heartfelt reflections and valuable lessons from our own journey. We emphasize the importance of a strong spiritual foundation and keeping Christ at the center of our relationship. Listen to how spending intentional quality time together, even after years of marriage, has been pivotal in strengthening our bond. We also discuss how open communication and emotional maturity have evolved our approach to handling conflicts and disagreements, ultimately fostering a loving and resilient marriage.
Ever wondered how to balance individuality within a marriage without causing friction? We'll share how we've grown both individually and together, highlighting the importance of supporting each other and pushing one another towards greatness. From navigating the challenges of living far from family to overcoming initial financial struggles, we draw upon personal experiences to offer insights on maintaining independence while avoiding jealousy and competition. Discover how intentional communication, financial discipline, and sustaining strong family connections have helped us overcome obstacles and nurture a thriving partnership.
Travel has played a significant role in fortifying our relationship, and we reveal how creating lasting memories through shared experiences has deepened our bond. Reflecting on both joyful and challenging times, we underscore the importance of mutual support and showing up for each other. Whether it's exploring new places together or balancing our differing personalities, we share our favorite parts of marriage and offer advice to those considering tying the knot. By continuously learning about each other and involving God in our relationship, we aim to build a strong, enduring marital bond. Tune in to hear our journey and gather tips for your own.
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Welcome and thanks for tuning in to Real People, Real Talk, relevant conversations that take you from surviving to thriving. This is the podcast that goes there. My name is Paul Calcoat and I'm your host. Now let's talk. According to the American Psychological Association, nearly 50% of marriages in the United States end in divorce.
Speaker 2:And only 80% of first marriages make it past the first five years.
Speaker 1:And we're happy to report that we are in the 80%, as we are celebrating our sixth year anniversary this month at the time of this recording, June 22nd.
Speaker 2:To God be the glory.
Speaker 1:Sing it, babe. And I also want to take the time to wish my mom and dad, pastors Leonard and Paula Calco, a very happy 37th wedding anniversary as well, on June 20th.
Speaker 2:Happy anniversary.
Speaker 1:Now we want to tackle a familiar topic in a different way. We have a list of questions. We're talking about marriage today, of course, and we're going to use those questions to interview each other on the topic of marriage and see what's been working for us so far.
Speaker 2:We're calling this Marriage 101. But before we move forward, we want to kick things off with scripture and a quote.
Speaker 1:Going back to Genesis, chapter 2, verses 22 through 24, as we take a look at the very first couple, adam and Eve.
Speaker 2:Then the Lord, god, made a woman from his rib he had taken out of the man and he brought her to the man. The man said this is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, for she was taken out of man. That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
Speaker 1:This scripture speaks to the lifelong process of becoming one, and that takes a lot of grace, a lot of forgiveness and, of course, keeping Christ at the center of the marriage.
Speaker 2:Now a quote by Fawn Weaver the greatest marriages are built on teamwork, a mutual respect, a healthy dose of admiration and a never ending portion of love and grace.
Speaker 1:So here we go with these questions and these prompts unscripted, whatever comes to your mind first, honey. But Holy Spirit, have your way.
Speaker 2:Question number one babe, you ready.
Speaker 1:I am.
Speaker 2:All right. What do you think has been the most important factors in keeping our marriage strong and healthy?
Speaker 1:That's probably the easiest one I would have to say our commitment to the Lord, having a strong and healthy spiritual foundation, the time that we spend together in Bible study and in prayer, and then the time that we spend in prayer and Bible study on our own, and, of course, going to church together and worshiping together, serving together. And I just believe that having Christ at the center of our marriage builds for a very healthy, sturdy, strong foundation to our marriage. But yeah, that's what I think. What about you, bae?
Speaker 2:Besides that, I would think us consistently and continually dating each other. Yes, ma'am, and keeping each other first. As life goes on and jobs come and different things like that happen, life happens, it gets harder to date and go out and do this and do that because of schedules and different things like that. But I think right now we have a good, healthy balance of working and doing what we love and also going out on date nights through the week, on the weekends, and really just, you know, putting each other first.
Speaker 1:I like to keep dating, spending quality and intentional time together. I like to keep dating, spending quality and intentional time together. And then sometimes we got to you know, reflect and recalibrate. What worked for our schedules in year one may not work for us in year two and the same for you and your marriage. But secondly and I'm gonna give this to you, bae, because who else would I give it to, because it's me and you today Um, how do you handle conflict and disagreements in our relationship and what strategies has been most effective for us?
Speaker 2:I think we have learned a lot from the people that we used to be in the beginning, because and we've said on here multiple times that we didn't have a healthy way of having disagreements or handling conflicts in the very beginning stages of our relationship. And so I feel like we have learned from that and learn each other and know that we can kind of come to each other and just say, hey, I'm feeling this way, how can we get past this, you know, and just really have more open communication. I think that's easier said than done for some people, because communication is hard, especially if you didn't grow up with a family that communicates well or if you didn't grow up with a family that communicates their feelings. That could be hard for you. But I think that has truly been a big shift in a strategy I guess we can call it that we use. That has helped us. What do you think?
Speaker 1:We have matured and we have grown.
Speaker 1:I think it was sometime this week that you know we have a bit of a disagreement.
Speaker 1:And back in the old day I would just you know we have a bit of a disagreement and back in the old day I would just you know I was petty, I was immature. In our dating time, even in our early years of marriage, I would just kind of shut down and just kind of be silent and give her the silent treatment and really that was that was very emotionally immature and it wasn't fair to my wife and I began to to weaponize silence. And so this time around, because it happened late that night and so I didn't have a chance to take care of it that night, but the next day I was like you know what I am too grown and I love my wife too much to be petty and to be immature, and I just kind of list out the things that was on my mind. As a man I was, you know, humble myself, was being emotionally vulnerable and say this is how I felt, based on what you did. I love you.
Speaker 2:How can we move forward? Yeah, and I like that coming from you know, a husband and just me being me. A lot of times I will just kind of go through life and not really think about, oh, how is that going to affect somebody else, or even how is that going to affect you? Know, you and you know I'm still working on that and I feel like that's a work in progress that continues to happen, because you go through a lot of your life and it's you're thinking about yourself first, and so then when you get into a marriage and you have to put that other person um first, it's a shift that has to happen and it doesn't come overnight.
Speaker 2:I think it takes um years for that to build up yeah um, and so being able to be open and vulnerable and just say, hey, this is how I'm feeling, how can we get through this, which we did, and I appreciate that, because I'm in a different role at our club and so I was kind of in between trying to figure out how to manage that, but also trying to manage the school year ending and still trying to, you know, be a wife on top of that, and so, um, it just was in one of those moments where it was kind of a transition season that we just had to say, okay, like what's gonna work? How can, how is this gonna work for us? What are we gonna do?
Speaker 1:and so, um, so far I think we've been doing a pretty good job yeah, I just want to say to the man like it's okay to express your emotions and how you feel to your spouse, because that should be a safe place. Expressing your emotions doesn't mean that you're weak. It means that you're gonna be. It means that you're going to be humble enough to just open up to your spouse. And as we're saying is this is what we have learned in our six years, but we're not to this point and we would never get to this point. We say, oh, our marriage is good, we don't have to work at it. No, it's a lifelong process, as the Bible says that the two shall become one, and becoming is an ongoing process. We always got ways that we can learn, grow and improve, and so this is where we are now, and we hope to do better as husband and wife.
Speaker 2:Yes, so that is something that we strive to do as as a couple. But, babe, in what ways has our marriage changed over the years and how have we grown individually and as a couple?
Speaker 1:I think I've grown as a man and I've grown as a husband and learning just to be a better leader, not just a leader of myself, but a leader of our family, to be a better husband and to lead out in humility and taking accountability and taking responsibility.
Speaker 1:And so that's how I feel like I've grown as a individual. As a couple, we are in a better place, um, spiritually. I feel like we're more consistent with our time with the lord, together in time, with the lord alone, and, as mentioned earlier, we are better in dealing with disagreements quickly, um, especially in our dating time and even our early years of marriage. We would just like I say immature, we're just going to come. This is where people would talk. So we go, keep it real, keep it 100. We were very petty, we were very immature and disagreements that should have been resolved in 24 hours would take days because, you know, nobody wants to be the first one to apologize. So I feel like, as a couple, we have really grown in that area of communication, giving each other grace and forgiving and resolving conflict more quickly I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2:For me, I would think I have grown, just like. I know it sounds weird, but I feel like I've grown up in a lot of ways, because before we were dating, um, you know, and I was at home or in college, it was a lot of stuff that I could just go and say, hey, mom, I need this, can you give me that? And she would do it. Or you know, like I didn't have to cook coming up, and I didn't have to do a lot of cleaning coming up. I didn't have, you know, a lot of stuff that, like I guess other kids had to do a lot of cleaning coming up. I didn't have, you know, a lot of stuff that, like I guess other kids had to do. I didn't necessarily have to do those things because I was well taken care of and people like to call me spoiled, but it's called well taken care of. Anywho, it was a lot of stuff that I didn't have to do whenever I was growing up and so getting married and then having to do those things because now it wasn't just, you know, me living in my dorm room, it's me living with my husband and, you know, navigating adulthood and navigating wifehood and different things like that.
Speaker 2:You know, I feel like I had to do a lot of growing up, and I also. We got married when I was 20. 24 because, yeah, yeah, 24, and so I was still relatively young, um, and I had just gotten out of college not too long ago before, not too long before we got married, so like I didn't necessarily live on my own other than in college, like I didn't have my own apartment or anything like that um, before we got married. So it was like okay, went to living with a roommate back home for a little bit and then living with Paul. So it was never like a time where I had to be like 100% independent on my own um, and so I think this has helped me grow up and see that um you know, I can be independent and do those things that I may would have had to done if I was living on my own or whatever.
Speaker 2:So I think that, like growing up, that's a good one for me. And then, as a couple, I think everything that you said is completely true. I also think that, as a couple, we push each other like in the right direction, um, and we not necessarily question each other, but we allow each other to be who we are, but we also, you know, push each other to greatness, right, so we don't let each other just kind of stay stagnant, kind of where we are and, you know, just kind of going through the motions of life. We do try to push each other into um greatness and into doing things in a, um, godly light, and so I do appreciate that.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, and that's a big thing, because we aim to be each other's biggest supporter and biggest cheerleader, like all glory to god. But there's no jealousy between us, like if my wife get this super big raise, I'm like, ok, if she win, I win Right, and vice versa. So I just want to say this to the marriages out there, even though it's just dating, like, don't allow jealousy to creep in between you and your spouse. It's never a competition between y'all. Y'all are not there to compete with one another, but to compliment one another. Our goal is to push each other to be, to be great. Uh, push each other higher.
Speaker 1:It's iron, sharp and iron, as the word says. And what you said earlier about growing as an individual, I mean that's so true. This may make us sound old, but we got married in our 20s and we're currently in our 30s. I'm in my almost mid 30s and you just got there. So a lot of stuff was just new to life, just learning how to pay bills, learning how to live together, learning how to to share and just those those simple things that, um, if we're not careful, can kind of be pitfalls in our marriages so yeah, babe, I agree with everything that you just said.
Speaker 2:Now can you share a challenging time in our marriage and how we navigated through it together?
Speaker 1:I don't know if I can narrow it down to like one challenge in time, but one recurring challenge that I believe that we do have is we're pretty far from family and we both grew up in very strong, close families, like we love our parents, our siblings and extended family members, our siblings and extended family members, and so being, you know, six and a half hours from my people, from our people in Mississippi, and five and a half from our people in Louisiana, and then from here eight and a half from our people, your parents in Memphis, and so that has been a challenge, and so we've navigated that well by, you know, just splitting our time and our vacation and being intentional and going to visit them and being sure to call and face sign them and invite them over. Besides that, another challenge that I believe when we first got married and I remember when you moved down here, I I erroneously assumed that the first job you get would be a full-time job. But the job that you got was a paraprofessional because you was already a full-fledged teacher in Memphis. But when you got to Texas you had to kind of like for lack of a better word like regress and learn it at the Texas way before you could become a full-fledged teacher. Am I explaining that right?
Speaker 1:And so, instead of getting like a full teacher salary, using like a paraprofessional salary and we just had to really just budget well and navigate our finances and, you know, think through the pros and cons and budget and stay on top of our debt and credit and not to overspend and to practice self-discipline, not to spend too much, you know, fast food and different things like that. And I think that was kind of tough to just combining. Tough just combining our finances. And now we got rent, now we got a car pay, now we got insurance. Just navigating the finances of life and of marriage, as us being married relatively young.
Speaker 2:Okay For me. I guess I wouldn't say that it's challenging in a way. I mean it is, but at the same time it's not. It's challenging in a way, I mean it is, but at the same time it's not. It's almost in between. It's hard for me to kind of decide right now. So, like personally going through health issues, like with my grandmother, I feel like it's. It hasn't been like a challenging thing for our marriage per se, but I think it's been a challenging thing for me individually, which does then affect our marriage. And so I think that we have done a good job, especially you.
Speaker 2:I just want to give you kudos for like allowing me to take like that extra time to spend Cause, like you said, we are like five and six hours away from our families, um, and so we don't go down as often like holidays and different things like that, but other than that, you know we're working and so um being able to spend extra time, and sometimes he might go to um Mississippi a little bit later, I guess we can say um, so I can spend extra time like with my grandmother and spend extra time with my family in the season that we're in, right, and so we have done a good job of navigating that as well, because not only do you have to like navigating, okay, so it's christmas and christmas eve, and how are we gonna do this and how are we gonna do that, um, and so you know, and then also on top of that, you know, having an elderly grandparent that is also sick, you know, and wanting to still spend time there, but also not, you know, take away time from going to his parents, and you know those things like that, and so I just wanted to give you your kudos and I tell you I appreciate you, because you know, you know we all go through different seasons in life and this is just one of those seasons where you might, we might just have to, you know, understand, like oh, you know, we spent a little more time here because of xyz versus.
Speaker 2:You know, it has to be two nights here and two nights there and it has to be completely even and it's my family and your family, you know.
Speaker 2:Um, I think our families also have done a good job of yeah, very understanding yeah, allowing us to, you know, choose how we're going to do it, because even in the beginning of our marriage, um, thanksgivings, we were going to vegas or we were going out of town versus going to see you know family, because that's just what we chose to do on the week that I had off, and so, you know, they also allowed us to navigate that and, you know, didn't feel away just because we were going out of town versus going to spend Thanksgiving with them. And so, you know, I feel like yeah.
Speaker 1:I like what you said about when it comes to marriage. It's not about 50 50. It's more so about a 100 100 that both parties are given 100 percent. As you were saying about spending time with family. It's not about, you know, keeping tabs and tit for tat or like well, we did two nights at your family house, so we got to do two nights at my house. Well, maybe you know your family a little more tender love and care at this moment. Maybe you know your family need a little more tender love and care at this moment, and you know, and vice versa. But at the same time, we're not going to abuse. It's not going to always be heavy on one side versus the other.
Speaker 2:And so.
Speaker 1:I just want to encourage those that may be going through challenges is that look at these challenges as ways to grow closer to one another. I feel like these challenges has brought us closer to each other and also closer to God, and I will also encourage you, before we move on is aim to resolve conflict as quickly as possible. Life is too short to spend it mad, so get over some things. Forgive fast, apologize fast and give each other a lot of grace. The only perfect person that walked this earth was Jesus Christ. Your spouse is not going to be perfect. You're not perfect, so extend a lot of grace. And with these challenges, I mean grow through it together, but pray through it together.
Speaker 1:And, as you said earlier about you know marriage has been a lifelong process. Another lifelong process within the marriage that we should continue to be lifelong learners of one another. And so, although you know I've been knowing you since what? 2012 I can't say I know everything about you because you continue to grow and continue to evolve. So that was just a little lanyard, just something extra. Oh. So, sweetheart, what advice would you give to newlyweds or to couples that are considering marriage, based on our experiences, my advice come on would be to go all in, whether that is.
Speaker 2:Go all in with your dating experiences, go all in with your feelings, go all in with your communication, go all in with your worship, go all in with your writing, your reading, whatever it is that you feel necessary. I just say go all in, because you don't want to be halfway in, halfway out, especially going into a marriage. You don't want to be halfway in and halfway out. That is already a start for disaster. You might as well go all in. I believe that you should also pray and talk to God about your future spouse or the person that you're dating, to make sure that that is the person that you know he wants you to be with.
Speaker 2:I think sometimes our minds and our thoughts can be clouded by you know, oh, he did this and he did that. And you know, we're so all high and caught up on cloud nine about things that happen and things that didn't. Oh, this person loves me so much that we forget to put God in the mix of it. And so I think you should also, you know, put God in the mix and ask him hey God, is this what you want me to do? Is this the route that you want me to take. I think, for sure, for sure. You need to pray about it, okay, pray, pray, pray, pray, pray, pray, pray. Okay, that is something that you have to do from the beginning, from the beginning, because one thing about it God will reveal it to you. You just got to be listening, right, you just got to be open and receptive, but he definitely will reveal it to you, and, um, don't ignore the stuff that he is showing you, um. And so my advice pray, talk to God about it and go all in.
Speaker 1:That's, that's really good babe. Um man, I want to speak to the couples that are considering marriage. First, I would say really think it through, really pray about it, even fast about it, and get clear direction from the lord and don't allow exterior circumstances to rush you into marriage. And please remember that marriage is so much more than the glamorous wedding day, like when all the glitz and glamor and celebrating and music is over. You got to live with that person for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, and so don't go into it lightly.
Speaker 1:And for those newlyweds, what I would say to you is that marriage is meant to be enjoyed and not merely endured. So have fun in your marriage, have fun with your bae, with your boo. Set up great habits and routines at the very beginning. We already talked about this earlier. But the spiritual foundation of worshiping together, going to church together and just seeking God together, because the closer you get to God, the closer you will inevitably get to one another. And I will also say just get on the same page financially, combine your finances, be transparent and just kind of grow through that process together and then just aim to out love each other and there'll be a happy house and a happy spouse, amen.
Speaker 2:Amen, yeah, babe, that's great. That's great. Moving on to the next question Now, can you share a specific moment or experience in our marriage that has significantly strengthened our bond, and why was it impactful?
Speaker 1:Man. I just want to. We've repeated this, but it's worth saying just one more time the main thing that strengthened us is our relationship with the Lord. I just want to. We've repeated this, but it's worth saying just one more time the main thing that strengthened us is our relationship with the Lord.
Speaker 1:I just want to say that. But moving on from that, and not just a single instance, but I feel like all of our relationships, I feel like all of our travels and all of our vacation and intentional time together has really strengthened us. I love when we go on a extended vacation and road trip and just exploring a new city, um, with you, you are, uh, without a shadow of a doubt, my favorite travel partner. Not only my travels is better with you, but my life is better with you but enough of enough of wrapping and you know and raising you up and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:But yeah, our travel, just taking time to be away and just enjoy new experiences together, it creates a bond, because we love that when we talk and when we check in and we reflect. I love when we say, man, you remember when we was in this city, or you remember this weekend that we took off, or you remember the time that we spent with family on memorial day or things like that so those intentional moments of just spending extended time together and getting out of the rut and routine of life.
Speaker 2:So, um, that was another down to one thing it will always be our big summer trip that we always do do annually okay, okay, um, for me, um, past, you know, summer trips and all that stuff I think, like any moment that we show up for each other, I think has been a thing that has kind of strengthened our relationship and kind of strengthened our bond together. Uh, you do a really good job of like showing up to my volleyball games and even like showing up to the school and just kind of showering me with love and um gifts, um tiff treats listen, my favorite cookies, anyhow. But I think that just showing up for each other has been a good thing that has kind of strengthened our bond, because not only, you know, do we do all the fun things and we go out of town and we go on date nights and different things like that, but we still go through life as well. We still go through life as well. Um, you know, we had a instance this this past year where we had to travel um back to Mississippi a couple of times because you know, paul's family had death in the family and so, um, you know, and we were there for them on there, like him being here through the situation with my grandmother and as're navigating that, and you know he has been here through a lot of different things in my life as well, you know, before we got married, and so just being able to be there for one another whether it's be there on a trip and it's a high note, or just being there when we're going through low notes as well, you know we still are human.
Speaker 2:We still get sick. You know I get sick, um pretty. I don't think it's often, but when I do get sick, I get sick like I don't think I've ever just had just the common cold, like I don't think I've ever gone to the doctor and they're like oh, it's just a cold, you'll be okay in a couple of days. No, it's like you got covid, you got this.
Speaker 1:Like it's always something big hands on you, put anointing oils on you like come on it's always something big.
Speaker 2:my body is like go, go big or go home, like, regardless of it, go big or go home, and so, um, just being able to be there for each other through those things as well you know the highs of life, but also the lows of life I think has also strengthened our bond as well. So, yeah, yeah that's good.
Speaker 1:I can't even add them to that. You said it well, showing up for one another, you're welcome. What are some of your favorite parts of marriage? Favorite parts of marriage.
Speaker 2:Some of my favorite parts of marriage is you know things that we have pretty much already said being able to travel together, being able to explore new things, new cities, new countries together, being able to just date one another that's one of my favorite parts as well. Being able to show up for one another is just something about being able to connect on different levels in life, and so those are a few of my favorite parts of marriage that I'll share.
Speaker 1:For me, it's having somebody to do life with. As God himself said, it is not good for man to be alone. So if I'm having a bad day, I know that I can share that burden with my wife. If I'm having a great day, I know that I can celebrate that with my wife. So it's really as simple as that, like not going through life alone. Whatever life throws my way, I don't have to face it by myself. I can face it with the lord and also face it with my spouse now on the flip side of that.
Speaker 2:What are some of the harder parts of marriage and how have you dealt with it?
Speaker 1:I am a type a planner. I have a calendar, I have a to-do list. I like things done in decency and in order and and basically I like the sense of being in control, even though I know that I'm not and I'm learning to relinquish some of that. I know that our marriage no matter how much I plan things out, things are not going to go my way and not going to go perfectly. So I'm learning to be more spontaneous and more flexible. So that's been a harder part for me spontaneous and more flexible.
Speaker 2:So that's been a harder part for me. For me, I have to say, I am a type B person, strong, strong type B person, and so on the flip side of having things planned out, I don't have to have things planned out and I can just get up and go and go with the flow and whatever happens happens, you know, just live that type of life, you know, being able to kind of go kind of in between a type b and type a person, I think we kind of had to find a middle ground for you know, type a and type b yeah, call it type AB, I guess Compromise, and allowing each other to be great in their own regards, and not trying to control or manipulate or change each other.
Speaker 1:I think that's been a healthy thing too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, Because you know there was a time where if the sugar wasn't in his exact place, he would notice. But now, I've evolved.
Speaker 2:Wow, look at God, he has evolved and you know wherever the sugar is, it is. But I have tried to do a better job of making sure that I was not so type b, um, and I just kind of did whatever you know. But that goes back to me not really having to do anything when I was coming up, you know. But hey, but hey, it is what it is, we're going to go with the flow, we're going to do what we got to do, and I think that's a healthy balance for him too, because sometimes he can be like okay, we got to be here at this time, here at this time, here at this time, here at that time, and I'm just like leave some room for spontaneity, leave some room for just us having fun and just kind of chilling out or just kind of relaxing.
Speaker 2:Because at one point, like in the beginning of our marriage trips, time to time was planned out. Do you hear me? It was vacation, but we had to be here at nine o'clock, here at 10 o'clock, here at 10 o'clock. We were eating by this time, and so I think now you know, he has evolved and he's we are type a b now, and so we are able to say, okay, we're gonna go do this at nine and then we'll eat. We're gonna just kind of roam this place and go downtown and do this and just kind of chill out, and then, you know, kind of let it be a little more free, and so I'm thankful that I could help you with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Thank you, my love. You're welcome, dearie, and just thinking about harder parts and thinking about challenges, and you kind of got a glimpse, an inside glimpse, into our marriage, our lives and how different we are and how diverse we are, and so I would encourage you to celebrate those differences, celebrate the strengths in one another and don't allow those differences to divide y'all. Let there be a constant point of a conflict. Let each other be great in their own regards. And on that note, that's all folks. That's Marriage 101. From our perspective of six years of marriage, and like I say to God, be the glorious. We are still learning. And happy anniversary, bae.
Speaker 2:Happy anniversary, baby.
Speaker 1:As always, we really appreciate you so much for tuning in today and ask that you would share this episode with some couples in your life, those that you want to see win in their relationships.
Speaker 2:And thank you in advance. Until next time, go be all that God has called you to be, and we out.